Curse

Tyce · Sep 30, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Okay I wasn't exactly sure where to post this as its been quite a while since I last played, and soon I won't be grounded from MY computer so I will be playing again... I went online to see some of the skills and came up with three builds. All pvp except the smite monk I might try PvE and possibly the heal monk too.

Heal Monk:
1. Healers Boon
2. Orison of Healing
3. Essence Bond
4. Healing breeze
5. Healing ribbon
6. Remove Hex
7. Spotless soul
8. Renew Life
I don't remember how many stats etc you can raise and use for the attributes so... not sure on placement of those

Now the
Smiter Monk:
1. Smiters boon
2. Judges Insight
3. Retribution
4. Smite Hex
5. Castigation Signet
6. Scourge Enchantment
7. Essence Bond
8. Resurect
Same with the heal monk on raising stats.

Now this ones a doosy lol

Reflect Warrior/Monk:
1. Deadly Riposte
2. Riposte
3. Healing Signet
4. Endure Pain
5. Tretribution
6. Reversal of Damage
7. Balthazars Spirit
8. Restful Breeze

I know that I have 3 upkeep spells but I would cancel one before I cast another. Its kind of a noob build but if I can get enough energy I think it could work...

DarkNecrid · Sep 30, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Heal Monk:
Skills #2,3,4,5,6,8 are all bad.

2,4,5,6 are inefficient for their costs.
3 is worthless.
8 don't bring rez on monk.

Smite Monk:
1,2,3,6,7,8 are all bad.
1 was nerfed to uselessness.
2,3,6,7 are worthless.
8 don't bring rez on monk.

Last one:
completely terrible.

Tyce · Sep 30, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

So thanks you for explaing it and making me understand why. Any suggestions? It has been quite a while since I last played so substitutions in skills and telling me what has been nerfed etc etc would be nice. Thanks for starting the help...

DarkNecrid · Sep 30, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Well, Healer's Boon can make some of the inefficient skills better, but while that's viable to some degree in PvE, Word of Healing is just a better elite.

Word of Healing, Patient Spirit, Cure Hex (to replace Remove Hex), Dismiss Condition, Guardian are all solid choices. Signet of Rejuv/Glyph of Lesser Energy/defensive skills like Dark Escape etc, are all solid spot fillers too.

Smite Monk's are pretty terrible atm since Smiter's Boon got nerfed, and if you want to play one your bar is pretty much figured out for you with no variation.

the last one is just bad and nothing can save it.

ALF71BE · Sep 30, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Even counting the nerfs, first and third build are just terribaed.

One, because it's pure healing. No damage prevention, just damage response. Sucks in high end PvE and sucks in PvP too. Not only that, but you also include lame healing spells, so if you're gonna play HB (lol HB...) at least have spells that heal for big numbers and stuff like Heal Party to relief pressure.

No energy management neither.

I hope we don't need to explain you why pure straight healing is bad and requires 0 skill. Btw, read the stickied page in the monk section.

Two, smiters look good on paper but outside undead areas they're lame.

Three, that warrior is just... Just... I mean, God who told you that?!? Looks more like you haven't played in three years (and even then, that sucks).

Start over please, go to the warrior section and read the sticky.

Now some other points; Essence Bond is bad outside farming builds, where Balthazar's Spirit is still better if you *must* carry one. Hp regeneration is itself also bad as it can top at only +20hp per second; straight up healing is far more energy efficient and less vulnerable (considering those regeneration spells are enchantments and thus, strippable with damaging spells like Shatter Enchantment or strip Enchantment).

There are more points but I'm too lazy :P.

Tyce · Sep 30, 2008, 03:59 AM // 03:59

I figured it was lacking protective spells but i was just seeing what would be said. 3rd was just me messin... might try it anyway just for kicks and giggles.. I love regen, as a temperary thing. Regen on this person, they survive while i heal the almost dieing people then focus back on them... Anyway, thanks

Riotgear · Sep 30, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Single-character builds go in the RA thread or AB forum.

Details in the sticky:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10228984